thenorthdismembers:

I just don’t understand

why

people who want to take all the tropes in ASOIAF that Martin subverted

and put them in a show where they play them all straight

why did these people love ASOIAF in the first place?

Because um

subverting tropes is a big part of ASOIAF

and if the idea is that Ned dying is the most important kind of subversion

I just

don’t

kn

I think what I loved most about the books, before we even talk about the characters, is that we really get the sense that this massive story in this massive world is really being told by a wide variety of people who all perceive things differently.

The main issue with the show is that the story strongly feels like it’s being told from one point of view. A rather sheltered, straight middle aged man’s perception. I think it strips away a lot of what appealed to many in a very varied fanbase.

Would you sensually pan up on one of your male actor’s ass in close up before slowly panning up their chest as they come out of a bath? No? Then don’t do it to your actresses.

Would you think ambition is an important part of any ambitious male character? Yes? Then why did you feel that stripping away Catelyn’s was right?

This could go on forever with this show.

Now, it’s a good story and it’s beautiful visually. But the people telling it should have been a lot more objective about sex and gender before this series had any hope of reaching it’s full potential. Saddly, once the cow’s been milked there’s not squirting the cream back up her udders and we have what we have, heh.

Should I be grateful that we got a series at all? Or disappointed that it falls short of the quality narrative (and women) we got in the books?

I feel both.

…But then I think of Catelyn and Sansa right now and it’s mos def the later.